Van Halen Digest Friday, 4 October 1996 Volume 01 : Number 692 In this issue: Re: Whoah there Ken...reread my post... Re: David Lee Roth scam VH Interview on Mark&Brian More suspense? responding to val -Reply Re: More rumors? Re: '88 Rockline (was Re: Puppet Roth & Hagar) Re: Ed, you're kiiding...right? Re: WB news RE: More suspense? Re: Pagannini Re: Re: Videos and bullshit Re: A New Perspective Re: Mentality of this mailing list Re: videos and bullshit Very Long: Here's a little story about Re: toronto radio making fun. Florida too. Ed's band?? Re: VH coming to a club near you... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LordFoxx@aol.com Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 10:53:26 -0400 Subject: Re: In a message dated 96-10-03 01:14:35 EDT, you write: << He is tired of having >singers who eventually stole the spotlight from him...afterall the >band is named after him and his brother. >> Now I was big fan of the Hagar version of VH(I loved Roth too), but how did Sammy ever steal Ed's spotlight. I thought it was just the opposite. With Sam, the spotlight shined ever so brightly on Ed. Lord Foxx ------------------------------ From: mcmillen@umr.edu (Amy McMillen) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 10:02:04 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Whoah there Ken...reread my post... ken@austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach IBM) writes back after my post about people slamming VH. I said nothing about being censored....just that if they feel that strongly about not liking VH anymore, and that they are done with VH, then why are they here. I don't think you understood what I meant by my post *at all*. To sum it all up, if you don't like VH anymore because of what is happening, and you are not going to listen to them anymore....it is a waste of YOUR time to be on this list. I would not spend my time reading about, gettin info on, etc....a band that I was "finished with." And what I meant by my statement about getting a life (REREAD my post), is if this shit about the band is affecting your life...you need to regroup and get your shit strait. There are plenty of things going on in the world for me to get uptight about, besides what is going on with Van Halen. >Personally, I think people who are posting the "Eddie sucks" etc. posts >are overreacting. I admit my faith has been shaken some, but I'm gonna >try not to get overly emotional and see how this all ends up Is this not what I basically said in my original post, Ken? And if you still do not understand what I mean....e me privately, and I will TRY to explain it in simpler terms for ya! :) Amy ------------------------------ From: Mike Nastasi Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 08:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: David Lee Roth scam > > Hi, > I'm a long time VanHalen fan. Been listening since 78. [snip] > Edie has lost his hard edge guitar playing. His sound is so > refined it hardly sounds like rock. He needs to pull out the old > Marshall stack and get back to basics. Try to learn some new licks. > If I hear the same whiney solo again I might swear off Van Halen > forever. Whoa! Telling Eddie to learn some new licks. First time I've read a post about someone thinking Eddie's stale. I loved his guitar work on MWM. I too have listened to VH since 78' and sure he doesn't havve the hard edge sound of then, but you can't keep playing the same sound over and over and perpetually live in 1978. I love that sound, but I'm always looking foward to what he'll do next. ------------------------------ From: Tim Tucker Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 08:16:28 -0700 Subject: VH Interview on Mark&Brian Can someone who's gonna tape the interview make a RealAudio file out of it and post it somewhere? The file size shouldn't be that big because it will only need to be recorded good enough for talking. Tim ------------------------------ From: Mike Nastasi Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 08:17:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: More suspense? Just to add to all the rumors that have been flying around, Mark & Brian, giving an intro to when VH will be on the show later, said that CHERONE might not be inked to a deal and there was a surprise! Just more crap. Guess I've been getting caught up in it all. I'm sure we'll see plenty of post's after the M&B interview. ------------------------------ From: Kevin Hall Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 11:28:34 -0500 Subject: responding to val -Reply "Musicians are weird anyway"? I'll bet farm animals back up against the fence when they see you coming. So forth and ever onward dude. >>> David King 10/03/96 06:29pm >>> My name is Jim Hodnik, and I am writing from my friends computer to you in response of this whole VH saga. I have been thinking that you may as well give Edward a brake, he probably was flying high in his David Lee Roth era. (Party on Dude!!!!Pass it this way!!!!!!! Bottoms Up!!!!!1) Having a good time writing great guitar pieces and so forth. Then differences in music stepped in. He had much more to offer musically and he wanted to express just that. Remember he is a musician, and musicians are weird anyway. So he had a few head-butts with David. DLR seems like a nice guy, but he's a salesman to me. Eddie is no salesman. Anyway DLR left to sell something better, himself. His album "Eat'em & Smile", with his name in big print. Just to prove he's not done. Then Eddie needed a new singer. Just like now. I think Eddie just wants new things, new things and more new things, and ever onward. If Eddie gets a new singer it won't be that bad. After all, he can write good music. I think what he did what he did was because he is in the public eye. He has no choice. He doesn't want to give away all his secrets.Just like he never made an instructional video on how to play guitar...same thing..... Please respond Valerie Thank you Jim Hodnik ------------------------------ From: Mike Nastasi Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 08:24:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: More rumors? Forget my last post. M&B are just screwing around and I fell for it. I'm so ashamed :) ------------------------------ From: sr5150 Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 08:40:19 -0700 Subject: Re: '88 Rockline (was Re: Puppet Roth & Hagar) Small piece would be nice But can I have something to drink with that! CYA, S.R. Mike Irene wrote: > > >Sorry My mistake! > > CYA, > > S.R. > > Actually, Scotty, with all respect, you're wrong. I have the tapes to > > prove it. On the '88 Rockline shows that Mike was talking about, Mike > > and Al went on one week, and Sam and Ed went on the next week. Sammy > > even called up when Mike and Al were on, telling Mike he was "Claudio". > > > > No sweat Scotty...shall I cut a small or large slice of humble pie? It > goes really well with that Australian meat pie! :D > > (=)==# ------------------------------ From: Brett Downey Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 10:39:59 -0700 Subject: Re: Ed, you're kiiding...right? SCRNAIM@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 96-10-04 03:00:24 EDT, you write: > > >Subj: Ed, you're kiiding...right? > >Date: 96-10-04 03:00:24 EDT > >From: glennf@pe.net > >Sender: owner-vanhalen@lists.fdt.net > >Reply-to: vanhalen@lists.fdt.net > >To: vanhalen@lists.fdt.net > > > >I couldn't agree with you more. What the heck is Eddie thinking?!? This > >whole "reunion" thing is making me sick. Of course, Eddie will still get > >my $12.99 I'll hastily slap down for the "Best of" just to hear > >Vintage Van Halen once again, but I must say I have lost all respect for > >the band as a whole. Not only am I truly disappointed about this whole > >"publicity sham," but I'm even angry that we were somewhat misled. And > >Gary Cherone?!? C'mon! With all due respects, Gary Cherone is no Roth > >nor Hagar. Van Halen was lucky once with Sammmy replacing David, but > >twice lucky? Even Eddie Van Halen isn't that fortunate. Sorry Van Halen, > >looks like your nine lives is up... > > > > > > Publicity sham? I guess we should all boycott Tom Hanks new film because > he's out there promoting it. In fact, lets boycott EVERYONE who promotes the > work they've done. How dare they! You were only misled because you CHOSE to > be...NO ONE ever said that DLR was in for good...NO ONE. If you read that in > there somewhere you have no one to blame but yourself. > > What you want is not necessarily what's for the best...you don't have to live > in whatever situation was going on...VH does. Just as you wouldn't stay in a > situation that wasn't working for you because friends and family INSISTED, > how can you expect anyone else to do the same? > > As far was *what the heck is Eddie thinking?!?" Gee, maybe he knows more > about this situation than you or I do...maybe even more than DLR is > telling??? You're working on the assumption that DLR told the whole > story...as some rational people on this list have said, there are TWO sides > to every story. You have to understand also that DLR is giving a very biased > report of what he perceived was going on. That's the case with ANYONE in an > emotional situation. > > Twice lucky? I don't think it had anything to do with luck... > > MarieWhen they appeared on MTV Awards and Daves name was on the screen it said "David Lee Roth,Van Halen" Come on now,Alex"Its Magic" and"When We played together it happened" I mean,you would have to be a real retard not to think Dave was in.Wake up Marie!!! ------------------------------ From: SCRNAIM@aol.com Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 11:34:35 -0400 Subject: Re: WB news In a message dated 96-10-04 10:11:58 EDT, you write: >Subj: WB news >Date: 96-10-04 10:11:58 EDT >From: A.Hodgkinson@soton.ac.uk >Sender: owner-vanhalen@lists.fdt.net >Reply-to: vanhalen@lists.fdt.net >To: vanhalen@lists.fdt.net (vh) > > >It appears that a letter of intent was signed by Cherone on >Monday to demonstrate "good faith acceptence" of the final >contract that is slated to be finalized October 2nd. > >I was told that all parties involved (VH, Warner, & Cherone) >reached a unanimous agreement of terms LAST WEEK and >that the contract signing scheduled for October 2nd is >standard formality. > > >I was also told that Warner is enjoying all the publicity >surrounding the public ambiguity over the lead singer situation. >They intend to take a "no comment" stance through >October in an effort to foster the guessing game for the >purpose of generating interest in the GH compilation. > > >********* > >this has allegedly come from someone with contacts at WB. It stinks >that WB are "enjoying" the publicity, whilst we are kept like mushrooms: >in the dark with the occaisional lump of shit thrown at us to keep us >quiet. > >Andy Keyword: ALLEDEDLY Who is this person who provided all this information anyway? What ties do they have with WB? What contacts do they have? I could sit here and type all kinds of things, say I have a *reliable source* providing me with the info, doesn't make it true. I could also be blindly taking the word of some ding-dong who says he/she's in *the know* simply because he/she says he/she is. Your assumption that WB is "enjoying" the publicity is just that...an assumption. Give me proof, of that and all the allegations stated above, and I'll believe you...until then... BTW...this is how rumors and MISUNDERSTANDINGS begin...can we try to keep it at a minimum? There's enough of it going on already... Marie ------------------------------ From: "Grzelaczyk, Kenny" Date: Fri, 04 Oct 96 11:36:00 EDT Subject: RE: More suspense? I heard somewhere ( I think it was here) that a VH lawyer confirmed that Dave was Back in the band. Is this true?? Don't want to start rumors just trying to end one GRYZ ---------- From: owner-vanhalen To: vanhalen Subject: More suspense? Date: Friday, October 04, 1996 8:17AM Just to add to all the rumors that have been flying around, Mark & Brian, giving an intro to when VH will be on the show later, said that CHERONE might not be inked to a deal and there was a surprise! Just more crap. Guess I've been getting caught up in it all. I'm sure we'll see plenty of post's after the M&B interview. ------------------------------ From: ken@austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach IBM) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 10:37:06 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Pagannini Dean Hutchinson writes: > Subject: Re: Pagannini > > maybe you're referring to pagannini. he was a bad-ass for sure. i've > never seen pictures, but a friend told me that the pictures he'd seen > really looked like steve vai.. I don't know when photography was invented, but Pagannini died in 1840. Soe there may or may not be photos. I've seen a painted picture and he doesn't look like Vai in it, but that's beside the point! What I really wanted to post about was that there is an awesome CD of the 24 Caprices done on classical guitar by Elliot Fiske. Any guitarists on the list should check it out. The guys is a fantastic player and will make you run to practice or comtemplate giving up all together. And I also found the Caprices on CD for $5.99, recorded by some Russian violinist (Ilya Rotchercokof or something ;-). Ken ------------------------------ From: Brett Downey Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 10:42:21 -0700 Subject: Re: Schmieder, Don wrote: > > Everybody can say what they want. The truth of the matter is that > VanHalen never said or confirmed who was going to be the new lead at any > point in time. So what if Dave was with the at the MTVMVA, they were all > asked to be there. I didn't hear anything remotely close to Dave being back > for good. If it was a publicity stunt, oh well, so be it. It generated a > lot of interest didn't it? People who want to boycott VH, go right ahead. > I'm sure those people are the same people who wanted to boycott when Sammy > joined. They'll hear the great music that VH is putting out and come > crawling back. VAN HALEN ROCKS!!!Not no more!!!!MTV-caption"David Lee Roth,Van Halen"DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA ------------------------------ From: Bauvil@aol.com Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 11:37:19 -0400 Subject: Re: Videos and bullshit bui@ee.mcgill.ca wrote: >> If Dave hadn't put out that press release, we would still be in the >> dark and Van Halen would still want us to believe that there was a >> chance that the reunion was going to happen, even though they had >> been working with their new singer for the past two weeks and they >> were working out their "contrctual obligations". They were ready and >> willing to string Dave along for another 2 videos and milk the BO for >> all it was worth. What a crock of shit. rexjackson@earthlink.net wrote: > I think you have a pretty firm grasp of the situation.... I think he has a pretty firm grasp of *something*, which I'm guessing went limp once he found out Roth wasn't in the running anymore. Oh well, at least we can all sit back and "kvell" as the bond between Don and Rex grows ever stronger ..... something good had to come out of all of this. Bauvil "This is a pain that is going to linger...." -- The Brain ------------------------------ From: Brett Downey Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 10:43:50 -0700 Subject: Re: A New Perspective Esther Martinez wrote: > > Look at it this way. Edward and Alex are an employer of sorts. If you're > running a business and don't like the work one of the employees is handing > down, you have to make a change, and I think that's just what they decided > to do. Even as an employee, you change jobs or positions because something > is not working. Everyone has that option. I think the band was making a > change because after the MTV Music Awards. They saw that Dave was still the > same. It's not that he's bad, but there have been interviews done by the > band where they say that Dave was only in it for the show and to be in the > public's eye. That does not seem to be Van Halen's mode of operation. > Since things haven't been going so well for Dave, of course he would like to > get back together with the greatest band on earth. (He just thought he'd do > a little better as a solo artist and it didn't work out that way). He > tried, did well, but doesn't fit their style anymore. > > I don't recall hearing anything about a commitment beyond the two songs. I > think we will hear the second song partly because it means money (for all > parties involved). After seeing Dave's behavior at the MTV awards show, > however, I have to say that I wouldn't go anywhere with him. I was > embarrassed for them. The band seemed to be laughing at him and > embarrassed. They maybe thought that it would be more of that same show > whenever they went anywhere in public. > > The only thing that is the same about the band today as when it was with DLR > the first time is that they still make great music. But they are older, > wiser, have children, blah, blah, blah. All that, combined with sobriety > and age, really change a person. Dave has changed too, he just doesn't seem > to want to admit that his body and voice can't do exactly what they used to > and that he doesn't have to act like a 20 year old still in order to get > attention or make good music. > > As far as the "they're-only-in-it-for-the-money" issue, I would say that > money does not seem to be the primary focus AND/BUT at the same time, no one > works for free. We surely don't. > > Like I said before, I am just anxious to hear some new music soon. > Sorry this is so long. I'll shut up now. > > Esther > ******************************************************************* > Esther Martinez, Executive Secretary > Office of University Diversity & Compliance > Oakland University Phone: (810) 370-3496 > 148 North Foundation Hall Fax: (810) 370-4362 > Rochester, MI 48309-4401 E-Mail: martinez@oakland.edu > *******************************************************************Ed was the ass on MTV!They are "out of business" without a singer and a bassist. ------------------------------ From: ken@austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach IBM) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 10:39:31 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Mentality of this mailing list James Moran writes: > Subject: Mentality of this mailing list > > David King wrote: > > > > Cmw2423@aol.com wrote: > > > > > Thats what Garys boyfriend said last night > > Hello; > > I was warned about the mentality of this mailing list. They were right, > can't you people be civil? > > Later; > James You must not have met MULLY and Junebug yet. :-) Guys, care to respond? Ken "duck and cover" ------------------------------ From: Brett Downey Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 10:44:53 -0700 Subject: Re: videos and bullshit Dan wrote: > > Good for Dave being the spoiler of VH little secret. wonder how long they > would have kept us in the dark? a week after the release of the hits? Too > bad about no MWM video. that would have been fun. But I wouldn't wish Dave > being in their company for anything. > > If that rumour about the tape on Dave's answr. machine is true that will > make Ed look really bad and give fans no reason to not accept what Dave and > Sam have said. It sounded as if it could come from the same person who > said, " you never listen. you always want to do your solo thing. maybe you > should be solo again" . Dave and Sam should do an interview with Rolling > Stone together. Telling their side of the story. mentioning they may do a > " VanHalen" tour. > > DanI agree Dan!!!! Brett ------------------------------ From: "Grzelaczyk, Kenny" Date: Fri, 04 Oct 96 11:40:00 EDT Subject: Very Long: Here's a little story about DIAMOND DAVE & VAN HALEN "THERE 'S A LITTLE VAN HALEN IN ALL OF US AND WE 'RE JUST TRYING TO BRING IT OUT" (David Lee Roth) This is the story of men who gave new meaning to the word "PARTY" while creating a whole new kind of Rock music. Back in the 50's there was a man in Holland playing the clarinet for a matinee type of show, allways touring the country. He had two kids and his wife decided that the life of a touring musician would be a very bad influence to their young boys. So they moved to Pasadena, in sunny California because they had some family down there. The rest is pretty much rock history. Little Eddie started playing drums and Alex guitar but that didn't really work so they switched instruments, and Eddie devoted all his time playing Clapton records trying to copy every single note. Along came Michael Anthony and a wildchild named David Lee Roth, and Van Halen started rocking highschoolparties all over L.A., eventually making it to the clubs on the Sunset Strip in West Hollywood, where they had to pass out flyers on the street to try to get as many people as possible to attend their shows. One day Gene Simmons from Kiss saw them play and took them to New York to try if a recordcompany would sign them, but this was when Disco ruled and no one wanted to take a chance with them. So they just kept on kicking ass at the local clubs, Eddie turning his back to the audience while jamming his solo's so nobody could see and copy his unique style of playing, Dave doing pretty much anything he wanted on stage, untill they finally caught the attention of a recordproducer, Ted Templeman. Ted produced their first selfnamed album for them, which was released march '79 and is by still considered their best one so far. The thing that made it a trend-defining part of rock history is the unbelievable guitar solo on it by Eddie, Eruption. But not only did he do things nobody had ever dreamt of doing on guitar, the other main part of the success was that David Lee Roth wrote a whole new chapter under the word "cool" in the dictionary by the way he dressed, the nonstopflow of jokes and comments that the press just couldn't get enough of and how he moved on stage (he broke his nose doing a flykickphoto for the second album when he hit the stagelights and fell, which didn't stop him from showing up for a concert they did in Italy, bandaged nose and all!) Dave flying around! Basically Diamond Dave became the first big megastar in a long line of wild and glamorous longhaired partyrockers that included bands as Motley Crue and dominated the roaring 80's. And Party they did! At an Anaheim, California show Van Halen parachuted onto the stage in front of 62,000 screaming fans and only a few people haven't heard the story of how in their tourcontract they requested a bowl of m&m's after one of their concerts, but specifically said they wanted it without any brown ones. So when they found a brown m&m they went on to completely trash the room. Early 1979 they went back into the studio's and six (!!!) days later they came out with Van Halen II, which included their first top 20 hit "Dance the night away", and had a lot of mistakes on it that were caused by the quick recording but were laughed off and gave the album a cool touch (like the "cummummummummummum baby in "Bottoms Up"). Eddie Van Halen was named guitar player of the year by Guitar Player Magazine and they went on their second worldtour in two years. In 1980 they recorded Women and Children First in 2 1/2 weeks. During the taping of "Could this be magic?" there was so much smoke in the studeo that they had to open all the doors, and it was a rare rainy day in LA, which you can hear on the background when you listen closely to that song! "Fools" was one of the tunes they used to jam at highschoolproms, with slightly different lyrics! The album reached #5 in the charts and stayed there for months, and in spring 1981 it was time for another album, but not before Eddie married Vallerie Bertinelli on april 11 1981. By now the band learned it was a wise move to keep a microphone wherever David Lee Roth went, and certain things they recorded while he did his thing where put on albums. On "Everybody wants some" they included something they overheard while he was in the dressingroom with a girl (do yourself a favor and play that song to check it out right now!) and for the absolute Rock Classic "Unchained" from their next plarinumselling album, Fair Warning, they put on a little conversation he and Ted Templeman had when Dave saw how Ted was dressed: "Whooooohoo! Hey, man, that suit is you! You're gonna get some leg tonight for sure! Tell us how you do..!" "Come on, Dave, gimme a break" "One break, comming up!" That break didn't last for to long because in 1982 they made yet another album, Diver Down, which was critizised because it contained 5 covers. I don't understand what the big deal was, because all five are awesome, especially "Big Bad Bill (Is Sweet William Now)", a song Dave heard on the radio and amused him so much he recorded it for the rest of the band, who all cracked up when they heard it. They got Alex and Eddies dad, Jan Van Halen to play clarinet for the song. Then there was Pretty Woman, for which they made a videoclip where a bunch of midgets tried to sexually assault a transvestite (according to Diamond Dave he had the greatest legs he'd ever seen) and the band came to the rescue. Not only was this video banned from MTV for mysterious reasons but the clip was also too long for the song, so Eddie added some guitar soundeffects (like a beercan run over the strings) as an intro. In the meantime Dave started going his own way more and more, taking a lot of adventure trips with his group called "the Junglestuds", and showing up a little to late or to drunk at concerts. Then it was time for 1984, the album and the year that made Van Halen from superstars into Rocklegends. On newyears eve David Lee Roth introduced the album live on MTV. He wrote all the lyrics while being chauffeured through the Hollywood Hills for inspiration, except for "House of Pain", a song they used to play back in the old clubdays before their first album. For "Hot for Teacher" they cut Alex loose completely and built the rest of the song around it. The biggest hit on the album (as if you didn't know allready ) was Jump, and the video for it, which only cost $5000, finished second in the MTV video of the year awards behind Mike Jackson's "Thriller", which cost $500,000! Many people believe Eddie Van Halen jumpstarted Michaels career into overdrive with the guitarsolo he did for "Beat it". Because of the solo they had to redo the song, make it faster, and it reached the mainstream audience. Eddie never got anything in return for it. What he did have (allready had), was a heavy drinking problem, that eventually wound him up in the Betty Ford clinic, just like his brother Alex. Meanwhile Michael Anthony took his drinking to yet another level when he bought a patch of land from the Jack Daniels distillery, and designed his base guitar in the shape of a J.D. bottle, something the company eventually saw as good advertising and started doing for him. After the touring was over Dave tried to start a moviecareer which never really succeded, and then made a soloalbum called "Crazy From The Heat", with four coversongs on it. Rumors started floating around that the band had broken up, which were denied at first untill Dave officially anounced he quit. While Dave was gathering some of the finest musicians in the business for his new band, Sammy Hagar (whose solocareer was nice but not exactly sizzling hot) was told by a friend of his to contact Eddie, who turned out to live right down the street from him! Sammy signing another guestbook They jammed, they clicked, and in 1986 Van Halen was reborn and released "5150", which is a policeterm they use for a lunatic that's on the loose, and the name Eddie gave to the Studio he built at his house. Meanwhile Dave and his new band (Steve Vai guitar, Billy Sheehan bass and Greg Bissonette drums) released "Eat 'em and Smile", and his wild videoclips from "Californian Girls", "Just a Gigolo" (both from "Crazy from the Heat"), "Yankee Rose" and "Going Crazy" (both from "Eat 'em and Smile") ruled and rocked on MTV. Van Halen's response to "Eat 'em and Smile" was "0U812", pronounced "Oh, you ate one too!?!". Most of the lyrics for that album where written in Cabo San Lucas, Mexico, by Sammy Hagar who was really inspired there by the white beaches and golden Tequilla (so much that he even wrote a song about it on the album, "Cabo Wabo"), but the only thing was that he had no place there to play and try his new stuff, so he talked the rest of the band into opening a club there with good food and a stage so people could jam whenever they wanted. So on april 22nd 1990 the Cabo Wabo Cantina opened and they all jammed with some other famous musicians that where invited. Dave back in the Skyscraper period Two years before that David Lee Roth released his third solo album, "Skyscraper", after one of his favorite hobbies, mountainclimbing (guess what his other favorite hobby is?) They spent a lot more time resampling this album and putting little details in than they did on any Van Halen albums before that. The result was fantastic, as where the concert shows of his worldtour. But all good things must come to an end, and after Steve Vai got into a fight with the recordcompany Dave got himself a new band again, with which he recorded "A Little Ain't Enough", the album released in early 1991. Later that year Van Halen comes back strong with their first album in three long years; "For Unlawfull Carnal Knowledge". One day a guy from the stagecrew left a drill laying next to Eddie's guitar, and when he came back Ed was running the drill past his strings so that the electromagnetic field produced an all new sound, which he used as the intro to F.U.C.K.'s first song, "Poundcake". As expected people didn't allways react to kindly to the album's title and when a kid got arrested in a small midwest town because he was wearing the "F.U.C.K. Worldtour" t-shirt the band paid his fine when they found out. Another thing Sammy Hagar had to pay for was the funeral of one of his relatives, which made him think about how it costs money when you are born, and also when you die! This caused him to write the song "In and Out". The album was followed by another world tour which finally brought the Van Halen brothers back to their native country of Holland, a show which kicked more ass than a nuclear bomb! The tour resulted in the first official live album, "Right Here Right Now", a double CD. In the meantime Dave moved from LA to Downtown Manhattan, NY, cut his hair, got arrested for smoking a joint and released a new album in 1994, "Your Filthy Little Mouth". It wasn't his best vocal performance ever and some of the songs are not at all what yo'd expect or even like to hear from him but his lyrics are funnier than ever. After a tour and some rest Dave decided to change his tune completely and concentrate more on the entertainment part of rock. He started doing some shows in the big Las Vegas casino's. Since that's where I live I didn't have to go far, and though many people condemn Dave for how he has changed. I was pleasantly surprised by his new gig. Still too loud for some of the really older folks and not hard enough for some metal fans (people from both cathegories walked out). He combined cool stories, swinging tunes, daring jokes and of course some of the all time favorites like "Icecream Man" ("Who's in the mood for licking some icecream? I 've got two flavors: vanilla and dick!...Oh, and I just heard we're out of vanilla!") and Jump, and served it all up with a style and class that I hadn't seen from him in a long time. His voice was also back to his unique and excelent level. In that same year Van Halen released "Balance", which had his world first night during a gig in a club in Holland. Only 300 fans had the opportunity to see that performance. Among them was my brother (Edward). This album contained a short version of Eddie trashing a piano in a Malibu beachhouse he borrowed from a friend, which he accidently recorded. His place of birth was used for the song "Amsterdamned", and the video clip for it got banned by MTV (yes, this is the 90's...) because it showed the bandmembers going to prostitutes in the Red Light District and smokin a joint in the coffeeshops! But they did show the video on a hughe screen at their concert tour. As I write this the last news is that Van Halen has two brand new tracks which will appear on the soundtrack from the movie Twister. I hope that the successtory of Van Halen will continue the next couple of years. A lot of people say that Van Halen now is better than ever before. Others think that the only real Van Halen is with Dave. To the last group I recommend a visit to a show of the Atomic Punks. This cover band really knows how to party and how to perform the old Van Halen songs. Check them out! Let's hope that Diamond Dave will keep on finding his way to his fans, 'cause he is one of the greatest showmen ever. Without Dave, Van Halen would never have been as popular as they are now. GRYZ Thought I would pass this info on ( In memory of the good times) ------------------------------ From: Brett Downey Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 10:46:18 -0700 Subject: Re: toronto radio making fun. Florida too. Bill Leonard wrote: > > >Brian Paul wrote: > >> > >> At this moment, two toronto radio stations are making fun of Van > >> Halen....yes, it's true, Van Halen are being laughed at!!!! > > > >Same here in Dallas...Q102 is ripping Ed up one side and down the > >other...they arranged a song from the new "Dave and Sam" band that has > >various screams and moans from both guys - kinda fun, actually :-) > >Their advice to VH and Ed? - "Get over yourselves." > > Yep, the Ron & Ron show here in Florida (on about 10 stations in the > southeast) had a comical editorial on Van Halen and the crap they pulled, > not so much on Dave, but the fans. > > The likened it to a Chips reunion, then telling Eric Estrada at the last > minute he was being replaced with Antonio Banderas. > > VH is the butt of the music media right now. > > ================================================================= > Bill Leonard bill@cyberlabgfx.com > Technical Director www.cyberlabgfx.com > cyber.lab g.f.x. 407.849.1903 > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Interactive World Wide Web Design and Consulting > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Making Art Out Of Science. > =================================================================As well they should be. ------------------------------ From: Dean Hutchinson Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 11:47:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Ed's band?? << There are 4 people in this band,Ed wouldn't have been shit without the other guys.What is he gonna do,play by himself on stage,he is gifted,but after a while that is a bore. >> i think everyone is missing the point here. if ed resents the lead singer for some reason, then things are going to come to a head. that will eventually ruin everything. maybe ed "calls the shots" because he is the creative workhorse of the band, maybe because al and mike are laid back and get along with everybody, only they know. i say that ed is the most creative, because it seems like he leads the writing process. mike doesn't say "hey i've got this riff". ed comes up with the seeds for the songs, then the other guys put in their parts, including the vocals. to the pissed off people : don't you think that if this dave reunion was really going to happen and be permanent, they would have said so a long time ago? the latest press releases only confirms what i have expected. the boys in the band weren't sure what they wanted in the "new" lead singer. i think we should all be thankful that they buried the hatchet for at least a few new songs. MWM rocks, and i'm sure that #2 will rock as well. ------------------------------ From: Brett Downey Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 10:56:29 -0700 Subject: Re: VH coming to a club near you... CitiZenX wrote: > > This is the biggest crock of shit I've ever heard in my life...I > can't belive this whole thing with Roth was bullshit....Dave I feel > for ya man! I've heard Me Wise Magic....and it rocks.....I was so > pumped about the fact that I was going to finally get to see VH, the > original.....but Noooo......sorry....just a joke to get you > interested......Oh well atleast I'll get to hear 2 new songs.....Sad > thing is.....I'm going to have to pay 12.99 or whatever to buy a CD > full of songs I already have, just to get the 2 new ones. > > Gary Cherone?? The first time I heard this rumor I just laughed it off > and thought, "oh thats ridiculous! No way.....not him...." Well there > is a good chance this might be for real.....Back when I first heard > about Sammy hooking up with VH.....it seemed right for some > reason....I didn't hesitate.....I immediately > thought..."Yeah....that'll work out well!" And it did. I liked VH with > Hagar alot (prefer Dave) But Gary Cherone?? No Way!! He's an Ok > singer....and Extreme was an ok band....But I can't, for the life of > me, see Cherone as the singer for VH. I think I would rather see the > band break up...so I could remember them as the great band they > are...than to see them end up doing something lame....and I don't want > to get ahead of myself....cause I'm willing to give them a listen or > two with whoever they get. But this sounds lame as hell to me.....They > played Pornographitti (Extreme album) on 96rock here in Atlanta the > other night and the DJ was explaining that this guy maybe the new > singer for VH, and for everyone to listen to the album and try and > picture this guy singing VH tunes. > > Well I listened, and although he does have a pretty good singing voice > I failed to see him fitting in with the VH. It just don't seem > right...It had some ripping ass guitar playing though! > > Anyway the bottom line is this: Kiss worked out there shit and got it > together....The Eagles....Plant & Page, and numerous other "reunions" > we thought never would happen have been happening.....And things > looked pretty promising with the Roth thing, Me Wise Magic proved to > me that Roth has still got what it takes (yes, I had my doubts ). Its > just too bad that VH is too proud to give the guy a second chance. > Dave knows what he had.....Dave knows he fucked up when he quit the > band the first time. If Dave would have had the chance.....he would > have busted his ass to be twice the frontman he was before. Its just > sad....to have it right there in front of your face a second > time....then snatched away!! > > Dave, Good luck to ya, Sorry it didn't happen..... > > CitiZenXI agree with ya dude. ------------------------------ End of Van Halen Digest V1 #692